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Location:

Salem,Ut,USA

Member Since:

May 06, 2006

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

2006 Ogden Marathon 4:19:33.

2006 St. George 4:05:31

2007 Riverwoods 1/2 Marathon 1:34:47

2007 Speedy Spaniard 10K 43:20

2007 Riverwoods 10 mile race 1:12:38

2008 St George Marathon 3:43:37 

2012 Spectrum 10K 43:54

2012 St. George Marathon 3:42:17 PR!

2014 St George Half  Marathon 1:40:34 C/PR

2019 American Fork Half Run Against Cancer 1:40:31 C/PR

2019 Nebo Half Marathon 1:38:09 2nd in my Age group 55-59.C/PR

Short-Term Running Goals:

 2024:

I'd like to just run more overall. 

Be more consistent.

Work on Speed.

Cross Train.

Run More races.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Stay healthy and keep running until I'm really old, and maybe get a Boston Qualify.

Personal:

I am Married and my wife Cindie and I have 5 kids. I am an insurance agent and have been for over 30 years.

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I took off Thursday and Friday hoping I would have a better long run on saturday but I am still having the same problem, no legs. I felt good for the first 6 or 7 miles but then at about mile 10 I was really struggleing. I think I am going to go back to my flatter corse for my long runs this is really hilly, mostly up hill and then you come back the same way which is mostly down hill, so we will see how it goes for my last long run on Saturday before I taper for the Marathon. Time was 2:50:33.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 12:45:47

Clay - long run helps only if you are ready for it. Otherwise, you will run a better marathon with no long runs at all. This is not to say that the ideal marathon is done with no long runs, just that a run that is longer than what your body is ready for that day makes things worse.

If you've skipped two days, a long run to make up the mileage, or just because you planned one is a mistake. It becomes too much of a shock on the body. Cramming approach works in school but not in running. If you've had a set back, just start from where it left you and patiently build up. If you get sick, and skip a couple of days, start with an easy 6 mile run.

Regarding taper - in this situation you should probably train as normal reducing the intensity a bit and making your long run shorter on Saturday up until around Tuesday the week of the marathon. Then start cutting back to about 50% of your normal training.

From Clay Simmons on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 12:59:44

I usually take off Friday, the thursday was because of the mild flu. My training schedule for the marathon was at 18 miles for my long run on saturday so I kept to that. I have been slowly building each weekend run of the 16 week training course that I have for the marathon. Am I doing this wrong?

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 13:34:53

The schedule taken from a running magazine is usually tailored to the average runner with the assumption of no setbacks. The problem with that is that there are no average runners, and setbacks happen more often than not. Rather than using a schedule, it is much better to listen to your body and decide what makes sense on a week-by-week and even day-by-day basis. A stress that exceeds your capability to recover from does more harm than good.

It is a good idea to have an overall plan of what you are going to do. Eg. - run N days a week (6 works best in my opinion), at least X miles a day unless there are setbacks, do M tempo runs, and Z speed workouts, a certain weekly mileage. But a daily schedule written in advance without the knowledge of today is essentially worthless and does more harm.

From Clay Simmons on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 13:50:37

I was running 25 to 30 miles a week before I started training for this marathon and I already have one under my belt this year, should I be running every day other than Sunday, what should I do with the marathon 4 weeks away.

I am confused.

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